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Me and my
Aortic Valve!

Sky One Gold hate their viewers
with the red dot, intrusive announcements
and The Simpsons spinning doughnut

Posted: April 14th, 2003.
Updated: April 19th, 2003.

Comments made so far:

  • My email to Sky on 13/04/03:

    Further comments

    • 1."Please less screen junk. It's driving me away from SKY FAST!!!!"
      - Colin

    • 2. "Dear Ms Ramsden,

      I understand that you are the controller of Sky One. I would therefore like to complain about your channel's appalling treatment of its few decent programmes, something that seems to get worse and worse on an almost daily basis.

      A few weeks ago, Sky One promoted its Michael Jackson documentary with a permanent on-screen DOG over the preceeding weekend. Complaints were brushed off with a "there was no other way we could have promoted it in such a short space of time", presumably between acquisition and broadcast.

      Now you've decided to promote something with what's presumably intended to be an orange doughnut, counting down to Friday. What on earth is this supposed to be telling me? Am I supposed to be telepathic and recognise immediately what it's promoting.

      Okay, so I assume that it's something to do with The Simpsons, but that's not the issue here - your blighting my screen with a pointless DOG that isn't even promoting something properly! What use is that - it's like an advertiser not mentioning their product! I would also point out that I make a practice of *not* watching anything promoted with any form of in-programme DOG - a major event should be attractive enough without ruining the enjoyment of other programmes (especially when those watching aren't interested in the event being promoted).

      As someone who is, in the words of her boss, "a highly accomplished and creative television executive" I would have thought you could have come up with some other promotional devices, even at a short notice - trailers and special Sky One idents spring to my mind, and hey, I'm not a highly accomplished and creative television executive, I'm just a viewer.

      That's right - a "viewer". Note, I didn't use the word "customer" as you regard me, but "viewer". I pay Sky to watch **programmes** (I'm sure you've heard of those, they're what you show between the adverts and promos), admittedly a pitifully small number compared to the hundreds of hours of rubbish you and other broadcasters are intent on pumping out, but I would like to be able to enjoy these programmes when I watch them.

      But, do you know what? I can't - and your channel's couldn't give a toss attitude towards its viewers and its programmes is the main reason I can't.

      You advertise Sky One as the place to see US series first. Now, according to Dawn Airey, you "know the Sky One market perfectly." Presumably therefore, the Sky One market" (strangely telling how she didn't use the word "viewer" isn't it?) is one that pays to see US programmes first, but only if they're cut to ribbons, shown in 4:3, covered with DOGs and RED DOTS and have their credits mangled so that Clare Sturgess can waffle all over them. This doesn't say a lot for your target audience does it - I mean, they're obviously so stupid you have to point out the bleeding obvious (i.e. the channel name) to them 24/7 in the vain hope that some of this will lodge in their brains. It's a wonder that advertisers are even vaguely interested in such a thick audience who can't be trusted to remember, say, the information on the search/scan box for the duration of the programme.

      It occurs to me, and bear in mind that I'm only a viewer, not a highly accomplished, creative and well-paid television exec that your audience might not be as stupid as you think they are. Perhaps instead, you could try aiming your channel at a viewer who prefers to see programmes uncut, shown in their correct widescreen ratio, DOG-free, with an absence of RED DOTs promoting your "interactive" service and with credits shown full-screen and where any voice-overs are sensitively done - i.e. not full of childish sarcasm and not popping up within a microscecond of the end of the programme itself, especially when the preceeding programme has been designed to elicit some emotional response from the viewer. I do not consider, say, a character's death on Scrubs or the final episode of Roswell (to name but two examples) as suitable places for her inane comments. Neither do I need to be told at the end of Buffy, that Angel is coming next - it's been doing that for FOUR seasons now, so we can be trusted to remember this.

      I've CC'd this to other individuals who like me care about how the likes of Sky are mistreating viewers and programmes. I've also CC'd it to other individuals at Sky who presumably don't care about anything other than racking up even more profits.

      If I could unsubscribe to Sky One and still subscribe to other channels, I would do so without hesitation."
      - Carl

    • 3. "I've finally had it with you people treating us like trash with all your on-screen trash. The Simpsons doughnut is the last straw. Today I cancelled my subscription. The occasional program that I wish to watch I shall get my neighbour to record for me. He is always in debt to me for something or other."
      - MJ

    • 4. "Hi!

      I thought I was alone in being annoyed by the increasing amount of onscreen logos but it appears I am not!

      I am finding it very distracting to the extent of changing channels to avoid the dreaded spinning doughnut.Add to this announcements crashing in before the end of movies and you can see I`m not a happy chappy!

      I would be interested to know if there is any market research regarding the above.

      Clearly you want to make subscribers aware of upcoming events but surely a less overt means could be used. At times there can now be three different pieces of onscreen information for the duration of a programme.

      Why not make it possible to remove the logos (etc) by pressing "Back Up"?

      Why not refrain from voice overs before the end of movies?

      I look forward to your comments"
      - Gordon

    • 5. "Good Afternoon,

      I am wondering why every single programme on Sky One and Sky Mix needs to have a red dot in the upper right hand corner. This really spoils my enjoyment of watching very good shows on Sky.

      Recently I noticed that The Simpsons have a moving donut logo. I must say that this is the most horrific contraption I ever saw. It is almost impossible to follow The Simpsons as you are distracted every time the 'so many days to go' rears its ugly head. Tha Simpsons is now a programme with 3 logos (Station Identification completing the trio).

      Is it not possible to stop these intrusive distractions?"
      - Sam

    • 6. "As of the last few days I've noticed that Sky One has gained another onscreen logo during all programming, this time a rotating gold doughnut in the bottom right corner. We could really all do without this- I subscribe to Sky (Family package, Sky+, Music Choice- a not insignificant subscription) in order to watch the programmes, not to be bombarded with onscreen junk that is actually now getting to the point where it is obscuring much of the picture.

      An animated logo is the ultimate distraction, and an insult to the viewer. We are all perfectly capable of digesting the contents of promos for events such as this between programmes and in publications such as the Sky Customer Magazine. We do not need reminding every minute during the programmes. My TV screen is not advertising real estate.

      The "All New" appearing under the Sky One logo for new programmes is also insulting- I think I can remember which programmes I've seen before. If the continuity announcer has said at the beginning of the programme that it's new, I won't have forgotten 40 seconds later. On many occasions I've seen the on screen graffiti actually obscure a vital part of the picture being broadcast.

      The Red Dot at the top right is a real annoyance- all it seems to be is a continuous advert for the premium rate services offered within Sky Active. If it must appear at all, why not for say 10 seconds during the beginning and end credits? I know pressing backup does remove it, but after an advertising break it always reappears. There really should be a function within the SkyGuide allowing the viewer to choose not to have this intrusion on screen, to simply disable all interacive flags, whilst not removing the interactive functionality.

      In conclusion, please remove all this graffiti from Sky One- it's spoiling the programmes- the most that's acceptable is a small "watermark" style channel ident that is hardly noticable (think CMT Europe before its closedown) I'm beginning to wonder whether there's any point in continuing to subscribe to Sky, as it's almost impossible to see the programmes!!"
      - Adam

    • 7. "Simpsons was unwatchable last week with this stupid logo in the corner.

      Please remove, and desist from ruining broadcasts with unncessary screen flak.

      Subscription £40 * 12 = £480 = lost revenue if you lose me as a customer.

      Please take it as read:

      • 1) Customers know what channel they are watching
      • 2) Customers do not wish to be reminded of forthcoming events during programme time.
      • 3) Customers do not wish to have the screen manipulated, or reduced, or announcers speaking over the end credits.
      • 4) Customers do not need to know the interactive button is red.

      A happy customer is a continuing-to-subscribe customer."
      - Geoff

    • 8. "Dear sirs.

      I wish it to be known, that I will be bocotting all my Sky One viewing this coming Easter bank holiday weekend.

      Things have now gone TOO far. The channel branding logo is bad enough, the red dot drives me batty, but Spinning Donuts in the 3rd corner of the screen, you have gone too far this time.

      Our family will be boycotting all Sky channels this coming weekend, and will be reviewing the need for the Sky pacakge as a whole in future."
      - Mark

    • 9. "Dear Sirs/Madams,

      Sky knows perfectly well that its viewers loathe screen graffiti. They have been told often enough.

      In the modern digital age Sky knows that there is absolutely no need for on-screen identifiers, because the EPG and the Search and Scan banner make it very clear which channel the customer is viewing. The days of requiring an on screen branding died with the Analog service.

      Sky also knows that its users loathe the red dot. Not only does it cause damage to modern televisions, it is very intrusive. Like the channel branding, it frequently appears over the top of character's faces (particularly because Sky One is still dragging its feet with 16:9 broadcasts which means that characters faces are frequently at the edge of the screen because of the huge cuts of the picture that Sky has to make to fit the out-of-date 4:3 ratio). This is very distracting and gives the impression of incompetance and amateur presentation.

      It is clear that customers hate this red dot (even those who, like myself, are well aware of the interactive services and frequently use them), because they used to press 'Back up' to get rid of it. Such wilful disobediance was obviously unacceptable to Sky who further punished their customers by making it harder to get rid of the red dot (by making them press 'Select' then 'back up' in very quick succession) and worse, by bringing it back after every ad break! Can I suggest that instead a small on-screen graphic is shown at the start of the programme or on turning to the channel that says 'Interactive, press red' but which switches off after 10 seconds? This of course should only be used for programmes which are truly interactive, not merely where you wish to push sales opportunities through Sky Active.

      You know very well that advertising is defined by the ITC only as 'items of publicity broadcast on behalf of someone other than the licensee in breaks in or between programmes' so you are not limited by the amount of advertising per day through the red dot. However you are exploiting this loophole in a way that is offensive to your subscribers. What is Sky's policy on advertising on top of programmes? Would they sell advertising space in other corners of the screen? How about in the middle?

      So, we have established that Sky hates having customers and wants to drive them away. And you took another big step in that direction with the absolutely unacceptable marketing for The Simpsons that has been shown in the week running up to Easter.

      Your customers hate the "Sky | One" logo. But at least it is static and transparent.

      Your customers hate the Red Dot, but at least it can be turned off (temporarily).

      Your customers had no idea that you hated them so much to take up yet another corner of the screen with a very large (1/7th screen height), bright orange and yellow, ANIMATED logo that cannot be removed! That it is large and hideous is bad enough, but the fact that it was animated every few seconds in a way that was horribly distracting was an insane decision.

      Why do you hate your subscribers? Do you not like taking our money? Do you want to force us to cancel our subscriptions?

      Please confirm by return that you will conduct open research into the use of on-screen logos. This should include showing your customers images from films and programmes where characters faces are covered by logos. The questions should be simple:

      • 1. "Given that the television channels are now clearly identified by the EPG and the Search and Scan Banner, and at every advertising break, do you require to be constantly reminded of the television channel you are watching?"

      • 2. "Is it acceptable for television companies to display advertising within the picture of television programmes for goods and services that have no relevance to that programme (commonly manifested by a 'red dot' in the corner of the screen)?"

      • 3. "Is it acceptable for television companies to advertise other programmes appearing on their channel up to a week in the future with large, brightly coloured, animated logos within the picture of other programmes?"

      Based on the result of such research, will Sky reconsider the use of Screen Graffiti?"
      - Steve

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